diff --git a/src/input/mpegts.h b/src/input/mpegts.h
index 04d18460..6dc92ed7 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts.h
+++ b/src/input/mpegts.h
@@ -542,6 +542,7 @@ mpegts_mux_t *mpegts_mux_create0
   { mpegts_mux_t *mm = mpegts_mux_find(u); if (mm) mm->mm_delete(mm); }
 
 void mpegts_mux_initial_scan_done ( mpegts_mux_t *mm );
+void mpegts_mux_initial_scan_fail ( mpegts_mux_t *mm );
 
 void mpegts_mux_delete ( mpegts_mux_t *mm );
 
diff --git a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux.c b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux.c
index ab52083e..c776b86e 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux.c
+++ b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux.c
@@ -295,7 +295,7 @@ static int
 mpegts_mux_start
   ( mpegts_mux_t *mm, const char *reason, int weight )
 {
-  int pass, fail;
+  int pass, fail, havefree = 0;
   char buf[256];
   mpegts_mux_instance_t *mmi, *tune;
 
@@ -319,7 +319,11 @@ mpegts_mux_start
   mm->mm_create_instances(mm);
   if (!LIST_FIRST(&mm->mm_instances)) {
     tvhtrace("mpegts", "%s - has no instances", buf);
-    return SM_CODE_NO_FREE_ADAPTER;
+    return SM_CODE_TUNING_FAILED;
+    // Note: we report a permanent inability to tune at this
+    //       time, rather than a lack of free tuners
+    //       this stops the init scan thinking we can't
+    //       proceed
   }
 
   /* Find */
@@ -329,15 +333,17 @@ mpegts_mux_start
   while (pass < 2) {
     tune = NULL;
     if (!mmi) mmi = LIST_FIRST(&mm->mm_instances);
-  
+
     /* First pass - free only */
     if (!pass) {
 
-      if (!mmi->mmi_tune_failed &&
-          mmi->mmi_input->mi_is_enabled(mmi->mmi_input) &&
+      if (mmi->mmi_input->mi_is_enabled(mmi->mmi_input) &&
           mmi->mmi_input->mi_is_free(mmi->mmi_input)) {
-        tune = mmi;
-        tvhtrace("mpegts", "%s - found free mmi %p", buf, mmi);
+        havefree = 1;
+        if (!mmi->mmi_tune_failed) {
+          tune = mmi;
+          tvhtrace("mpegts", "%s - found free mmi %p", buf, mmi);
+        }
       }
     
     /* Second pass - non-free */
@@ -368,7 +374,7 @@ mpegts_mux_start
   
   if (!tune) {
     tvhdebug("mpegts", "%s - no free input (fail=%d)", buf, fail);
-    return SM_CODE_NO_FREE_ADAPTER;
+    return havefree ? SM_CODE_TUNING_FAILED : SM_CODE_NO_FREE_ADAPTER;
   }
   
   return 0;
@@ -522,6 +528,26 @@ mpegts_mux_initial_scan_done ( mpegts_mux_t *mm )
   idnode_updated(&mm->mm_network->mn_id);
 }
 
+void
+mpegts_mux_initial_scan_fail ( mpegts_mux_t *mm )
+{
+  char buf[256];
+  mpegts_network_t *mn = mm->mm_network;
+
+  /* Stop */
+  mm->mm_display_name(mm, buf, sizeof(buf));
+  tvhinfo("mpegts", "%s - initial scan failed (remove mux)", buf);
+  gtimer_disarm(&mm->mm_initial_scan_timeout);
+  mn->mn_initial_scan_num--;
+  mm->mm_initial_scan_status = MM_SCAN_DONE;
+
+  /* Save */
+  mm->mm_initial_scan_done = 1;
+  mm->mm_config_save(mm);
+  idnode_updated(&mm->mm_id);
+  idnode_updated(&mm->mm_network->mn_id);
+}
+
 /* **************************************************************************
  * Creation / Config
  * *************************************************************************/
@@ -640,11 +666,12 @@ int
 mpegts_mux_subscribe
   ( mpegts_mux_t *mm, const char *name, int weight )
 {
+  int err = 0;
   th_subscription_t *s;
   s = subscription_create_from_mux(mm, weight, name, NULL,
                                    SUBSCRIPTION_NONE,
-                                   NULL, NULL, NULL);
-  return s != NULL ? 0 : 1;
+                                   NULL, NULL, NULL, &err);
+  return s ? 0 : err;
 }
 
 void
diff --git a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_network.c b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_network.c
index 78f458c2..9d6a3615 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_network.c
+++ b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_network.c
@@ -236,15 +236,28 @@ mpegts_network_delete
 static void
 mpegts_network_initial_scan(void *aux)
 {
+  int r;
   mpegts_network_t  *mn = aux;
   mpegts_mux_t      *mm;
 
   tvhtrace("mpegts", "setup initial scan for %p", mn);
   while((mm = TAILQ_FIRST(&mn->mn_initial_scan_pending_queue)) != NULL) {
     assert(mm->mm_initial_scan_status == MM_SCAN_PENDING);
-    if (mpegts_mux_subscribe(mm, "initscan", 1))
+    r = mpegts_mux_subscribe(mm, "initscan", 1);
+
+    /* Stop scanning here */
+    if (r == SM_CODE_NO_FREE_ADAPTER)
       break;
-    assert(mm->mm_initial_scan_status == MM_SCAN_CURRENT);
+
+    /* Started */
+    if (!r) {
+      assert(mm->mm_initial_scan_status == MM_SCAN_CURRENT);
+      continue;
+    }
+
+    /* Remove */
+    TAILQ_REMOVE(&mn->mn_initial_scan_pending_queue, mm, mm_initial_scan_link);
+    mpegts_mux_initial_scan_fail(mm);
   }
   gtimer_arm(&mn->mn_initial_scan_timer, mpegts_network_initial_scan, mn, 10);
 }
diff --git a/src/subscriptions.c b/src/subscriptions.c
index 1b34f155..062c9924 100644
--- a/src/subscriptions.c
+++ b/src/subscriptions.c
@@ -553,11 +553,12 @@ subscription_create_from_mux
   (mpegts_mux_t *mm,
    unsigned int weight,
    const char *name,
-	 streaming_target_t *st,
+   streaming_target_t *st,
    int flags,
-	 const char *hostname,
-	 const char *username, 
-	 const char *client)
+   const char *hostname,
+   const char *username, 
+   const char *client,
+   int *err)
 {
   th_subscription_t *s;
   streaming_message_t *sm;
@@ -566,8 +567,10 @@ subscription_create_from_mux
 
   /* Tune */
   r = mm->mm_start(mm, name, weight);
-  if (r)
+  if (r) {
+    if (err) *err = r;
     return NULL;
+  }
 
   /* Create subscription */
   s = subscription_create(weight, name, st, flags, NULL,
diff --git a/src/subscriptions.h b/src/subscriptions.h
index 5287c6f2..74644d27 100644
--- a/src/subscriptions.h
+++ b/src/subscriptions.h
@@ -128,7 +128,7 @@ th_subscription_t *subscription_create_from_mux
   int flags,
   const char *hostname,
   const char *username,
-  const char *client);
+  const char *client, int *err);
 #endif
 
 th_subscription_t *subscription_create(int weight, const char *name,
diff --git a/src/webui/webui.c b/src/webui/webui.c
index 6d388984..85fd8161 100644
--- a/src/webui/webui.c
+++ b/src/webui/webui.c
@@ -732,7 +732,7 @@ http_stream_mux(http_connection_t *hc, mpegts_mux_t *mm)
   tcp_get_ip_str((struct sockaddr*)hc->hc_peer, addrbuf, 50);
   s = subscription_create_from_mux(mm, weight, "HTTP", &sq.sq_st, 0,
                                    addrbuf, hc->hc_username,
-                                   http_arg_get(&hc->hc_args, "User-Agent"));
+                                   http_arg_get(&hc->hc_args, "User-Agent"), NULL);
   if (!s)
     return HTTP_STATUS_BAD_REQUEST;
   name = tvh_strdupa(s->ths_title);