diff --git a/src/channels.c b/src/channels.c
index 64995576..a72b54c0 100644
--- a/src/channels.c
+++ b/src/channels.c
@@ -554,7 +554,7 @@ channel_create0
 {
   lock_assert(&global_lock);
 
-  idnode_insert(&ch->ch_id, uuid, idc);
+  idnode_insert(&ch->ch_id, uuid, idc, IDNODE_SHORT_UUID);
   if (RB_INSERT_SORTED(&channels, ch, ch_link, ch_id_cmp)) {
     tvherror("channel", "id collision!");
     abort();
diff --git a/src/esfilter.c b/src/esfilter.c
index 8a6d8dba..3f66ee3c 100644
--- a/src/esfilter.c
+++ b/src/esfilter.c
@@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ esfilter_create
     abort();
   }
   lock_assert(&global_lock);
-  idnode_insert(&esf->esf_id, uuid, c);
+  idnode_insert(&esf->esf_id, uuid, c, 0);
   if (conf)
     idnode_load(&esf->esf_id, conf);
   if (ESF_CLASS_IS_VALID(cls))
diff --git a/src/idnode.c b/src/idnode.c
index 062b4b69..7a4e7d28 100644
--- a/src/idnode.c
+++ b/src/idnode.c
@@ -58,6 +58,14 @@ in_cmp(const idnode_t *a, const idnode_t *b)
   return memcmp(a->in_uuid, b->in_uuid, sizeof(a->in_uuid));
 }
 
+static int
+in_cmp_short(const idnode_t *a, const idnode_t *b)
+{
+  if (a->in_class != b->in_class)
+    return memcmp(a->in_uuid, b->in_uuid, sizeof(a->in_uuid));
+  return idnode_get_short_uuid(b) - idnode_get_short_uuid(a);
+}
+
 /* **************************************************************************
  * Registration
  * *************************************************************************/
@@ -98,20 +106,35 @@ idnode_done(void)
  *
  */
 int
-idnode_insert(idnode_t *in, const char *uuid, const idclass_t *class)
+idnode_insert(idnode_t *in, const char *uuid, const idclass_t *class, int flags)
 {
-  idnode_t *c;
+  idnode_t *c, skel;
   lock_assert(&global_lock);
   tvh_uuid_t u;
-  if (uuid_init_bin(&u, uuid))
-    return -1;
-  memcpy(in->in_uuid, u.bin, sizeof(in->in_uuid));
+  int retries = 5;
 
   in->in_class = class;
+  do {
+
+    if (uuid_init_bin(&u, uuid))
+      return -1;
+    memcpy(in->in_uuid, u.bin, sizeof(in->in_uuid));
+
+    c = NULL;
+    if (flags & IDNODE_SHORT_UUID) {
+      if(hex2bin(skel.in_uuid, sizeof(skel.in_uuid), uuid))
+        return -1;
+      c = RB_FIND(&idnodes, &skel, in_link, in_cmp_short);
+    }
+
+    if (c == NULL)
+      c = RB_INSERT_SORTED(&idnodes, in, in_link, in_cmp);
+
+  } while (c != NULL && --retries > 0);
 
-  c = RB_INSERT_SORTED(&idnodes, in, in_link, in_cmp);
   if(c != NULL) {
-    fprintf(stderr, "Id node collision\n");
+    fprintf(stderr, "Id node collision%s\n",
+            (flags & IDNODE_SHORT_UUID) ? " (short)" : "");
     abort();
   }
   tvhtrace("idnode", "insert node %s", idnode_uuid_as_str(in));
diff --git a/src/idnode.h b/src/idnode.h
index 8d2c786b..43ce3328 100644
--- a/src/idnode.h
+++ b/src/idnode.h
@@ -113,7 +113,9 @@ typedef LIST_HEAD(,idnode_filter_ele) idnode_filter_t;
 void idnode_init(void);
 void idnode_done(void);
 
-int  idnode_insert(idnode_t *in, const char *uuid, const idclass_t *idc);
+#define IDNODE_SHORT_UUID (1<<0)
+
+int  idnode_insert(idnode_t *in, const char *uuid, const idclass_t *idc, int flags);
 void idnode_unlink(idnode_t *in);
 
 uint32_t      idnode_get_short_uuid (const idnode_t *in);
diff --git a/src/input.c b/src/input.c
index fdfa36c2..b6f1eceb 100644
--- a/src/input.c
+++ b/src/input.c
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ tvh_hardware_create0
   tvh_hardware_t *th = o;
 
   /* Create node */
-  if (idnode_insert(&th->th_id, uuid, idc)) {
+  if (idnode_insert(&th->th_id, uuid, idc, 0)) {
     free(o);
     return NULL;
   }
diff --git a/src/input/mpegts/linuxdvb/linuxdvb_lnb.c b/src/input/mpegts/linuxdvb/linuxdvb_lnb.c
index 22d5fd62..27a4c78f 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts/linuxdvb/linuxdvb_lnb.c
+++ b/src/input/mpegts/linuxdvb/linuxdvb_lnb.c
@@ -314,7 +314,7 @@ linuxdvb_lnb_create0
   /* Setup static entries */
   for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(linuxdvb_lnb_all); i++)
     if (!linuxdvb_lnb_all[i].ld_id.in_class)
-      idnode_insert(&linuxdvb_lnb_all[i].ld_id, NULL, &linuxdvb_lnb_class);
+      idnode_insert(&linuxdvb_lnb_all[i].ld_id, NULL, &linuxdvb_lnb_class, 0);
 
   /* Find */
   if (name) {
diff --git a/src/input/mpegts/linuxdvb/linuxdvb_satconf.c b/src/input/mpegts/linuxdvb/linuxdvb_satconf.c
index 63626e83..afdfd379 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts/linuxdvb/linuxdvb_satconf.c
+++ b/src/input/mpegts/linuxdvb/linuxdvb_satconf.c
@@ -732,7 +732,7 @@ linuxdvb_satconf_create
   TAILQ_INIT(&ls->ls_elements);
 
   /* Create node */
-  if (idnode_insert(&ls->ls_id, uuid, lst->idc)) {
+  if (idnode_insert(&ls->ls_id, uuid, lst->idc, 0)) {
     free(ls);
     return NULL;
   }
@@ -1113,7 +1113,7 @@ linuxdvb_satconf_ele_create0
 {
   htsmsg_t *e;
   linuxdvb_satconf_ele_t *lse = calloc(1, sizeof(*lse));
-  if (idnode_insert(&lse->lse_id, uuid, &linuxdvb_satconf_ele_class)) {
+  if (idnode_insert(&lse->lse_id, uuid, &linuxdvb_satconf_ele_class, 0)) {
     free(lse);
     return NULL;
   }
@@ -1210,7 +1210,7 @@ linuxdvb_diseqc_create0
     htsmsg_t *conf, const char *type, linuxdvb_satconf_ele_t *parent )
 {
   /* Insert */
-  if (idnode_insert(&ld->ld_id, uuid, idc)) {
+  if (idnode_insert(&ld->ld_id, uuid, idc, 0)) {
     free(ld);
     return NULL;
   }
diff --git a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_input.c b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_input.c
index 14ebd357..2599cc47 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_input.c
+++ b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_input.c
@@ -1024,7 +1024,7 @@ mpegts_input_create0
   ( mpegts_input_t *mi, const idclass_t *class, const char *uuid,
     htsmsg_t *c )
 {
-  idnode_insert(&mi->ti_id, uuid, class);
+  idnode_insert(&mi->ti_id, uuid, class, 0);
   LIST_INSERT_HEAD(&tvh_inputs, (tvh_input_t*)mi, ti_link);
   
   /* Defaults */
diff --git a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux.c b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux.c
index 2f91e9f9..faa3160b 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux.c
+++ b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux.c
@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ mpegts_mux_instance_create0
   ( mpegts_mux_instance_t *mmi, const idclass_t *class, const char *uuid,
     mpegts_input_t *mi, mpegts_mux_t *mm )
 {
-  idnode_insert(&mmi->mmi_id, uuid, class);
+  idnode_insert(&mmi->mmi_id, uuid, class, 0);
   // TODO: does this need to be an idnode?
 
   /* Setup links */
@@ -881,7 +881,7 @@ mpegts_mux_create0
 {
   char buf[256];
 
-  idnode_insert(&mm->mm_id, uuid, class);
+  idnode_insert(&mm->mm_id, uuid, class, 0);
 
   /* Enabled by default */
   mm->mm_enabled             = 1;
diff --git a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux_sched.c b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux_sched.c
index 13e6762b..931d3579 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux_sched.c
+++ b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_mux_sched.c
@@ -259,7 +259,7 @@ mpegts_mux_sched_create ( const char *uuid, htsmsg_t *conf )
   }
 
   /* Insert node */
-  idnode_insert(&mms->mms_id, uuid, &mpegts_mux_sched_class);
+  idnode_insert(&mms->mms_id, uuid, &mpegts_mux_sched_class, 0);
 
   /* Add to list */
   LIST_INSERT_HEAD(&mpegts_mux_sched_all, mms, mms_link);
diff --git a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_network.c b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_network.c
index fa38af62..b50bf836 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_network.c
+++ b/src/input/mpegts/mpegts_network.c
@@ -281,7 +281,7 @@ mpegts_network_create0
   char buf[256];
 
   /* Setup idnode */
-  idnode_insert(&mn->mn_id, uuid, idc);
+  idnode_insert(&mn->mn_id, uuid, idc, 0);
 
   /* Default callbacks */
   mn->mn_display_name   = mpegts_network_display_name;
diff --git a/src/input/mpegts/satip/satip_satconf.c b/src/input/mpegts/satip/satip_satconf.c
index 4f6d01f6..0271a297 100644
--- a/src/input/mpegts/satip/satip_satconf.c
+++ b/src/input/mpegts/satip/satip_satconf.c
@@ -233,7 +233,7 @@ satip_satconf_create0
 
   if (conf)
     uuid = htsmsg_get_str(conf, "uuid");
-  if (idnode_insert(&sfc->sfc_id, uuid, &satip_satconf_class)) {
+  if (idnode_insert(&sfc->sfc_id, uuid, &satip_satconf_class, 0)) {
     free(sfc);
     return NULL;
   }
diff --git a/src/service.c b/src/service.c
index 0eb72984..ba3c0076 100644
--- a/src/service.c
+++ b/src/service.c
@@ -827,7 +827,7 @@ service_create0
   ( service_t *t, const idclass_t *class, const char *uuid,
     int source_type, htsmsg_t *conf )
 {
-  idnode_insert(&t->s_id, uuid, class);
+  idnode_insert(&t->s_id, uuid, class, 0);
 
   lock_assert(&global_lock);